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QBASIC.COM gone?

Post by burger2227 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:00 am

Apparently Qbasic.com is hacked also. This is more than just ignorant!

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Post by sid6.7 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:25 am

everything appears normal this morning that i can see...

what did you notice?

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Post by T'lon Nanaki » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:32 pm

I see it too, on my window title it says "HACKED bY: SH!T" what a discrace :(

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Post by burger2227 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:22 pm

It must have been restored today. But the forum is linked directly to the N54 Qbasic Forum and I still cannot access that. As for the rest of Mark's site, why bother lol.

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Post by roy » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:16 pm

I think that QBasic.com is worth saving for the the original site, which is history. As for you and me still being banned at N54, perhaps Pete does not want us back . lol

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Perhaps you .......................

Post by burger2227 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:09 pm

I have been in contact with Pete and he is still waiting to take the Forum over when the security is done being worked on by N54.

Perhaps this weekend he hopes

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Post by Pete » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:12 pm

Ugggh, it sure bothers me that such a great domain name is going to waste like that. Mark could have really done a great thing with QBasic.com, but he flaked out.

The only worthwhile parts of it are Lachie's http://games.qbasic.com and the N54 forum...not because the layout is that great, but because it's still active.

It was way better when Mallard's old site was still up.

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Amen

Post by burger2227 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:55 pm

You got that right, Pete! Mark is keeping the site name for some stupid reason. He lost interest years ago.
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Post by tlsuess » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:59 pm

I think it might be because he gave up on it. I mean the site was hacked, shut down by its web host, and just left to rot.

I'd personally fix it up but I don't know how much of a use it would be. Plus I've got finals coming up soon so I'll be even busier.

Also, I don't know who did it, but there are some "hidden links" at the bottom of QBasic.com's homepage. They all point to the same domain and look like honeypot-like spam. Take a look at the source to see it.

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Post by Pete » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:12 pm

Either that, or Mark added those links himself to generate some sort of advertising revenue. QBasic.com has a very high Google PageRank because of all the links pointing toward it, and gets a lot of traffic since it's been the #1 ranked site for "qbasic" for years. I remember Mark was making a fair amount of money from his Google ads at one point, so he gave cash prizes for the coding competitions.

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Post by Pete » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:16 pm

Hmm, it seems that if you search for "qbasic" or "quickbasic," QBasic.com is no longer in the top search results. In fact, it's not even on the first page anymore.

I wonder if that's a search engine penalty for the spam links?

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Post by Nodtveidt » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:13 pm

More than likely. Google especially penalizes for known spam URLs, as they have their own spam racket and don't like competition.

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Post by roy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:17 am

As the last Super Moderator at QBasic.com, I will have to state the position as I know it.
Mark also owns AionSource, the English language site for a Korean ? game, that had 72 members and 193 guests visiting in the last 15 minutes. Which makes me think that he is not really interested in QBasic.com.
I did ask Mark what he wanted for the domain name and his reply was that he would not sell and that he had set up an automatic renewal until the day that he kicks the bucket.
Why he made me Super Moderator I have not got a clue, as Solitaire and I had been the main proponents for returning QBasic.com to its original state.
I did visit 5 times a day to clear out spam and answer or refer questions to N54 but Mark eventually pulled the plug on that as well.
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I would like to add that Mark made N54 the main link after he closed the forum, which seems to say that he still cared but had lost interest. At least this has now put N54 back on page 2 of Google.lol

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Post by Pete » Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:18 am

Yeah, it's really a shame that Mark has the QBasic.com domain name.

There are dozens of people who could have done better things with QBasic.com, and it just so happened that Mark lucked into registering it on the day it expired. It's not like Mark had any track record in the QB scene -- he was a 16 year old newbie that most people, including me, had never even heard of before. Aside from setting up a now defunct forum at QBasic.com, he hasn't contributed anything else of value (as far as I know).

The website he made sucks, he's clearly lost interest in the site, and he's just being greedy by sitting on the domain. There are LOTS of people who would love to rebuild the site from scratch and make it something worthwhile. He should either give the site to someone else to run (even if he keeps the domain still registered in his name), or sell it to someone who will do something useful with it.

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Post by tlsuess » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:03 am

I think so too. I started losing interest in the QuickBASIC GUI Blog, so I passed the torch over to Brandon since he has more interest in it than me.

It's just downright cold to leave a website up and not change anything but not let anyone go near it.

I personally think a fair compromise would be to offer to redesign his site with him keeping full ownership of the domain and hosting.

Plus he can't set it up to automatically bill him forever - his credit card / bank account will eventually change, and if he forgets to change it, QBasic.com will be gone.

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Post by Pete » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:21 am

Well, for me, the reason why this is important is because it's QBasic.com. If this was http://www.marksqbasicsite.com or http://www.qbasicmark.com or some other personal/undesirable domain name, it wouldn't matter. He could let it sit there idly and die for all I care.

But we're talking about QBasic.com, which was an established website that he basically linkjacked.

It's also the most desirable QB domain name out there, and due the fact that it is *THE* QBasic domain name, and since it once had an established track record, it also gets the most traffic.

The fact is, there can only be one QBasic.com. Do we really want *that* site to be the representation of the QB community?

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Post by tlsuess » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:34 am

Personally I think QBasic.com is held together by strings. I mean the forums are linked to Network54, the pages all contain hidden links, and the homepage looks very plain and almost like someone made it in an intro web design class.

Pete, your site ranks the 1st QB site when "qbasic" is entered in Google. I think this site is more interesting since there's so much content, tutorials, files, the Qmunity, and of course, QB Express. I think the only thing Mark's site alive is the N54 Qmunity which pretty much runs itself. Half the links on the site are broken anyway so I think it's just the Qmunity.

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Post by roy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:57 am

I have sent another email to Mark explaining the situation. Pete,s site is and probably has always been the best but that does not mean that we should let QBasic.com die. For some reason Mallard made N54 the discussion site for QBasic.com and that is an historic anomaly that we are going to have to live with if we wish to preserve the past.

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Post by roy » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:08 pm

Email reply from Mark after I told him about the poor state of QBasic.com.

Poor state? What should it link to? What should it be? I've asked that question before and never got a straight answer. I doubt anyone knows what they really want out of it. Selling it would be stupid, because then everyone would be disillusioned and disgruntled once again about what the new owner does with it.

If anyone has a real plan for the site, I'll consider it. I've always been open to suggestions.


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Post by burger2227 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:26 pm

The site name is great, but I don't think another site is really necessary. Perhaps a current site could just move there.

Of course, a new owner would make some decisions that some will criticize. The real question is will it be used? The site was losing posts anyway. I don't think the N54 site is interested in moving there either despite the recent problems there.

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